SGL PERSPECTIVES

Why are we gay? Many books have been written to answer this question. Somehow though they never do! Most of the research that has been done to trace the origin of homosexuality has fallen into two schools of thought; namely, nature or nurture. Many of the researchers are either biological or social scientists. Most of whom are not homosexual themselves or non admitting homosexuals and because of which the cacophony of views being constantly introduced by various scientists has not given rise to  any one  theory  that gains substantial  acceptance within any segment of society. In fact every so often one of the new theories rises above the fray and becomes a "new theory of the moment". Currently the newest theory centers around the size of the pituitary gland and how it somehow differs in size in homosexuals and heterosexuals and  as usual gay people gravitate to these new theories because deep down we really would like to believe there is some concrete reason why we are the way we are. Well it is my belief that the origin of homosexuality is not so mysterious. Furthermore I believe that no theory will satisfy all groups involved. After all you have certain groups within religion that believe we are demonically possessed! Yes my bruthas there are those who feel that the devil is in you and he makes you feel all those desires. Another view that is different but just as far fetched is the one held by those who  don't believe homosexuality is an orientation but rather its more of a malady or  behavioral deviance! Ergo homosexuality is a learned behavior or sickness and like any behavior can be modified or like any sickness; cured! Well my friends to this maddening roar of theories lets add our own! This essay will seek to show that homosexuality is a natural occurrence within the human race. It will also explore the topic of traits. For example, no one knows  for sure why some of us are dare devils, pyromaniacs, or math wizards. Can anyone say for sure why some of us can sing, or paint, or dance very well? The answer is of course no! What we do know however is that these different aspects fall within the category of traits.

People  never question heterosexuality because of the physical validation factor. It is quite apparent that the male body compliments the female body in a reproductive fashion. This precludes any questioning of heterosexuality. No such physical factor occurs among homosexuals. This precludes homosexuality from being natural in the minds of many. So lets level the field a little. Reproduction and being heterosexually oriented are two very different things. Men and women don't have sex just to have children!  In fact men and women continue to have sex long after reproduction ceases to be possible. On the one  hand if one asks a heterosexual male why does he find the curves of a woman's hips and the supple line of her thigh sexually alluring he would most likely respond that its natural to do so but still not be able to explain why the curves of her body are stimulating. There would be no obvious answer. In the same manner a homosexual male may be stimulated by  the strength hinted at in the  broad shoulders of a male,  the thrusting power of tight firm muscular buttocks,   the look of a man's lips in the sensual way he licks them. Again without really knowing why. This leads us to the conclusion that humans are wired in some way that is not obvious to us to appreciate the various aspects of the male and female form. We have come to believe that the family of biochemicals called hormones are  the actuator but we still don't understand the mechanism. So lets look a little further at inherited traits.

Below is a very famous graph called the normal graph. Without becoming too technical lets say that this famous graph plots a reoccurring distribution of characteristics that seem to be present in all natural systems.

For example a teacher gives a test to a class. Towards one end will be the D students who are very deficient  and towards the other end will be the A students or the  most academically talented students. But as all of us know these two groups represent extremes and the smaller number of students in the class. The vast majority namely the B and C student fall in the middle representing the average. This pattern repeats itself over and over again in all natural systems. Mainly because nature has a built in balancing feature that seeks to establish equilibrium. Coming to equilibrium is called normalization. This concept is illustrative of the way I believe humans normalize along a sexual spectrum. At one extreme as the graph shows we have those who are exclusively homosexual and could never sexually engage with the opposite sex and at the other end those who are exclusively heterosexual and could never engage sexually with some one of the same sex. However as you can see the vast majority of us fall in the middle and due to environment, society, and a host of other factors we can live lives as homosexuals or heterosexuals   or even both which some may refer to as bisexuality. It should be noted that homosexuals at the extreme end of the spectrum   will often say to others," I was born this way,"  because for as long as they can remember they have felt homosexually attracted to members of the same sex. These homosexuals may look narrowly upon or even refute other same sex attracted males or females  who say," I realized I was gay when I was lets say 17 years old." These two cases which show  latency affect is easily explained in the theory of sexual normalization presented in this article.   It should also be noted that the further we are away from the middle the more likely we will engage in more of one type of activity then the other. This explains why men who are attracted to women for the most part every so often may have sex with a male or find that there is a curiosity or desire to do so.

In conclusion the acceptance of the  preponderance of evidence that points to the naturalness of homosexuality is strictly a function of society. The mystique that surrounds something that is so obviously normal comes from the fact that most of us,   gay or straight cannot reconcile ourselves to the naturalness of homosexuality because of the religious belief system in which we are raised.  So you tell me. Why are we gay?

DISCUSSION

From: Kobey


feedback: Greetings to all who may read this message.
I think there are some very valid and strong points of argument made by many who share their thoughts or opinions and beliefs as to "Why am I Gay".  I like to look at it in a very simply way. 
When one ask "Why"
Why am I Gay? and not heterosexual.
Why am I male? and not female.
Why am I brown in skin tone? and not lighter in tone or white with reddish, pinkish or olive tone.
Why is my hair black and coarse? and not red, blond, or brown.
Why was I born healthy? and not blind, deaf or with a mental disability.

WHY is there life?

If you answer because of "GOD" to any of those questions above.  Then what is your argument?  If you believe in a creator or a power of a higher source responsible for this universe.  Then again I say to you.  There is your answer. 
It's not about putting blame on anyone, or a birth defect.  If medical science feels that there is a hormone gene or DNA structure of some sort.  By breaking down a single cell to determine the genetic make up an individual could be your answer.  I can go on and on. 
But for me,
it doesn't really matter.  I feel like the ying and the yang.  I think we are both male and female.  We the male just haven't been able to procreate like the female.  We are both masculine and feminine, muti-cutural and divise as well as both good and evil.

In closing for my bible brotha's out there.  Man, not GOD nor the son of GOD we call Jesus.  Put the bible together before our eyes to see.  We nor the top biblicial scholars of our times were there to see it's evolution.  Historians, will tell you that every page in the books that make up the bible are not truly authenticated.  Man, has add to and subtract from the text and translations has been misinterpreted throughout times.  Thus I say to you, your bibles and my bibles are all a version printed from or by someone who we do not personally know, and may possible had edited it like the many times before them for their own personal reasons (ie: King James).  Finally, I think that the answer lies within you my brothas and that is the best answer you'll ever find to this and many questions about who and what you are.
Take care and stay true to yourself.

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From chunkiluv2000@yahoo

This is a topic that I have pondered over for years. I have talked to friends both hetero and homo and of course they have different opinions. So, here is my story no matter who wants to believe it I was born gay. There were times when I was a teen that I wanted to kill myself because of this. I have prayed, went to church, fast,lit candles,burned inscense and just about anything else that you can name to change who a was born to be. When I was about eighteen there was a girl that I found to be very attractive we started dating and as one thing led to another we had sex after about two years of dating she gave birth to our daughter. I love my daughter with all my heart and wouldn't change anything that I thought would take her away from me , but the entire time that her mother and I dated I really wanted to be with a man. I had tried to "convert" myself ! and it made my life a living hell and I was making life for my now ex-girl friend a living hell because for me being with her just wasn't right.

I know that God loves me and that is all that matters he shows this to me every day. He loves me because he knows that I am a good person. I no longer worry about what the Bible says because I believe that we as black people must began to re-evaluate the tool (Bible) that was once used to hold us captive. I am not saying that we should burn it just give a critical eye and some deep thought to what we read.

Chunki

From s1800323400@hotmail

First I wouls like to say how proud i am to be a black gay man on this day! Never have I seen such a education and prudent look at the life of a gay man before. And seeing all of this wonderful though provoking dialog sets muy heart at ease for the future of black gay America. As a social scientist and teacher, my focus is to understand society and teach others to do the same. In my indeavor to do this I find it hard and almost impossible to find black gay men ready to disucss there feelings about the subject at hand. For many years growing up I was ridiculed because of my feminity. But I have always considered myself a man, why because I believe a man is someone who stands up for what he believes. so having said all this I think it is time for me to get to the underlying problem with exceptence of homo sexuality The way we get people to except and uderstrand is to ghet to there root, their bass. Most peoples bace is the church. So if we can find out and then convince the world that the Lord is not against us or our community then every other ploblem within the community will fall into place. I can suggest an educational tool a book called (What the bible really says about homosexuality) Its on the web It great I use it a lot for teaching and helping men come to terms with there sexuality. well thats all for now but let me tell u brothas agin how proud I am of you and us right now. This web page has helped me see that we really do have a fighting chance!!!!!

From www.B-Castle@aol.com

I have to fully agree with you "da site" on your view about science and it's actual illiteracy on "what makes one homosexual,,I personally feel that because there are supposingly "great minds of science,psychology, and etc,,society expects some answers from these individuals expecially with all of it's new and modern technology,,so therefore as the saying goes "when you're a star,,give your public what they want to here",,which is answers..so why not give them some type of answer..... which is a bad policy to facilitate,because in reality it may not be the actual truth only a speculation and assumption. However these great so call minds fail to realize that in the long run,,that the truth will come out about the answer which they have provided. I think in reality no one really knows what makes men or women homosexuals,,I firmly believe that regardless of how heterosexual a person is, there has,nt been one time in anyone life, where the curosity of what it would be like to have sex with the same gender,did'nt pass through their train of thought somewhere in their life time,,whether they ever acted it out or not,,but because of curosity,the same curosity that ponders through our minds about "WHAT IS LIFE LIKE REALLY AFTER DEATH?!!" OR "DOES JESUS,JEHOVAH,MESSIAH,ETC,,,REALLY MET YOU IN HEAVEN OR ETC,,AND WHAT DOES IT REALLY LOOK LIKE,AND WHAT DO I DO WHEN I GET THERE? However I do have a very close friend that's very popular in the pono industry,,that started out in the straight pono industry and now he does gay pono,,and even he says"its sicking how some st.,guys have sex with other guys and the acting between the two is so fake,one can tell that the guy is not use to this type of sex,,and if you notice that there is a lot of todays popular porno st.,guys that started out in gay porno flicks,,however they supposingly watched from a guy or guys un-noticed,and just got hot enough to masterbat!
e.You can tell that these individuals was not comfortable touching another male,,but because of the individuals physical attrabutes,,, they got put into the movie,,,for,, MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC.,or the movie industry will splice scenes from another movie and put with other scenes from other movies to put together one whole movie. AGAIN MAKING MORE MONEY!,FOOLING THE BUYERS!,,.
I finally want to say,,I personlly have tried to deny myself,and live a so called straight life, however the urge never goes away,,not saying that I act on it, on every impulse,, because I don't,,but sometimes I do fight with my inner self about it,,sometimes I think it's a curse,,and other time I just accept it..I really have no true factual answer for myself or anyone else on why,,but I don't believe anyone else does either on "what makes one homosexual"!

From a sista

I may be a little out of place but I am a black female who does't affiliate herself as being bi, straight nor gay. I am proud to say that I love who I love whether it be a women or a man. We do not fall in love with biological genders, yet we commonly find others attractive. One thing that this society has not accepted is that the average human being is prone to find someone interesting outside of their own gender. I feel that people should be proud of who they are and love whom ever they want...I have a guy friend who is bi-and was embarassed about admitting it. I advised him to go against that cultural norms and love who he chooses to love. What is important is living our lives in a healthy manner and participating in healthy relationships. Thanks to the brothas who read this---I am jsut a sista who loves everyone!

From Harimmore@hotmail.com

I feel it's a constant struggle in everyday life not just gay life. I find it offensive when we try to put our on views in to the picture by trying to make people accept us. You have to remember that that person does not have a heaven or hell to put us in so why should you or I care about what they think. because some of them are doing the very samething that is sucking and fucking or getting fuck. Life is too dame short yo worry about other people view and comment about how we should live our life or it not right to be this or that. sorry for going on and no about this.

From anonymous

I believe in God and I do not believe that He makes mistakes. Everything that is evil hurts someone. How has the state of being "gay" ever hurt someone? People use the bible to condemn us, but if they believe the word don't they know it is wrong to judge? I don't like labels because they promote stereotypes. People are people. We are all different. We should all be proud of who we are no matter who that is. Me loving another man is natural. I didn't wake up one day and decide that. I have wondered about what it would be like to be with a woman just as I am sure that everyone has thought about being with both sexes because one could not have an opinion about it without thinking about it. I can appreciate a beautiful black woman. I can love a beautiful black man. We all need to stop questioning why. There have always been men who desired to be with another man and there always will be. Love is love and God is about love.

From bjincali@aol.com

Whatever you choose to claim yourself to be, it is all a construct embedded in your personality and chemical structure. Sure, it is easy to say that God made sexuality and decided off-hand who gets to be what, when, and to discover it at whatever age. But to me, that is an easy way out. Whenever God is brought into the picture, it is automatically undebatable...unquestionable...and the gospel (however, I can understand the social/political benefit bestowed to gay persons if this was fact). The debate between religious conservatives and SGL/GAY men would be quite argumentative...with both using God as the source of what's what. Just imagine...both using the same thing as the basis of their argument...simply confusing. And for those who do not feel empowered because of God's special assignment of living life as a gay man, something more needs to be devised as the source of varying sexuality. I think sexuality is less prescribed by God and more defined indivually through complex chemical balances and social adaptation. With all the varying experiences of SGL/GAY men (and of course the whole sexual spectrum incl. women and transgender), it is worth absolute consideration and study that sexuality is a result of various experiences, which defines desires, and monitors personality. Chemical balance is warranted by acceptance of role playing, butch women, feminine men...I mean really, God played a role in this...please quote the scripture in which this is relative. From my perspective, sexuality is not sourced from a single governing power, but a result of complexities that makes us who we are in every aspect of life.

From anonymous

"Why am I gay"...

It is MY belief that God made me who I am. I would be in the caterogy that concluded at the of 17 I was gay. I had debated and fought the issue, but the fact of the matter is I am who I am. What gay man has not pondered this question over and over again.Speaking with other gay men, I don't know of any that can show any hard evidence to prove their sexual orientaion.That truly is a tough question to answer from a scentific stand point. Of all the studies and theroies thrown around, how many gay men were included? Was it enough to prove the many hypothesis correct? I don't think so. Over the last few years I have found that homosexuals can be found in ALL physical, mental, and religous states. In my opinion, their is no physical test to conclude why we feel what it is we feel that makes us homosexual.
To ask why someone is gay is like asking why was I good in math and sucked at english. Being that know one knows why they are gay, we must conclude that it was pre-determined.

Did the devil made me gay? Hmmm... If so, he's a good man. He has produced some of the most beautiful and intelligent indivduals on this planet. What would he have to benefit from making me gay?
The only thing I think of is to cause confusion in the world. If that's the case he must have made me black as well.We call ourselves a religous nation, yet their are those of us who practice something called HATE. It is up to us to changeviews of society about homosexuality, it is simply a condition
of life. How you choose to approach it is up to you. Did the devil make me gay? I would like to think not, but who really knows?


Much love to the creator of Da Site, I have been here over the last few years and watched it grow into the most diverse sitecentered toward the African American

From Jamiosiris@hotmail.com

Let me thank you all at the site for providing an 18 year old young man a place where he knows other people are going through the same things he is. Regarding the origins of homosexuality and the way it is viewed by the church, I have a very unique perspective. First of all, let me start by saying that since the day I was born, many knowing people have said that I was given "sight" by God and was born with a "veil over my eyes". (Yall southerners and fellow Floridians know what I am talking about). Anyways, I'll just be blunt. I do not believe in the devil. I know of the xistnc of God but the devil is man-made to my belief. I also believe that the lord I know would not have went to the trouble of creating th beautiful being called human just to snd thm to "hell". The lord loves us too much to ever let that happen. Our physical body is just a shell that protects our soul while we are going through the learning experience that is life. Before we are born there is no male/female. We are just "cosmic beings". We choose to be born in order to go through a "schooling" for lack of a better word in order to learn more about ourselves. When we are born , the MAJORITY of us have no memory of our spirit-selves but at our death, there comes an epiphany, an understanding of why we chose the path or paths that were taken during our earthlife. If you want to know the lord's feeling on any of your life choices, my advic to you is to talk to God and no one else. I certainly listen to God and the other side ( I will not designate God as a him or her). The Bible, like many other literary works has been around for hundreds of years. Who knows how many times it has been altered to suit the qualifications of whoever was in posssession of it at each moment in time. Many people fail to realize that no matter what your religion, christian, buddhist, or whatever, it is all the same being who manifests itself in whatever shape or form you know it as. I am only 18 years old but my gift makes me wise beyond my years although it has often caused me much pain, I wouldn't trade it for anything. By the way, no one knows of my being Bi and if you saw me walking down the street, you wouldn't know either. I am into hip-hop an that is also the way I dress. It is not a masculine act, its just the way I am. I am trying desperately to find another young man just like me but I am having no luck. Sorry for taking up so much space but I just had to have my say. Thanks
Jcyrus

From Stockardd@aol.com

First, gay black men want you to believe they were born gay, then whenever it's convenient they make the excuse that they're gay because Black women make it hard for them in daily life and relationships! Make up your minds and stop talking from both sides of your mouth! I wish Black men would at times stop whining about how hard it is for them in the world (we all know this), because if they would, they may realize it is very difficult for Black women, too. I really think Black women are the most discriminated-against group in this country. Not only do these women suffer the daily tolls of racism from other Americans, they also endure sexism from them AND from Black men. It is a double whammy. Blacks are considered inferior to Whites, but at least Black men are male and still qualified to some mental and physical capacity. Women are considered inferior to men, but at least White women are White, and because of that are very qualified mentally and genetically. But Black women? They are doubly inferior, mentally, physically, etc, and are snubbed by everyone. Add to this the forever-held belief that White women are the epitome of true beauty and class and Black women can never fully achieve these assets. It would be hard enough to hear this from Whites, but this mostly comes from gay and straight Black men! I never could understand the hostility homosexual men obviously have for women. According to most of you, it's not because of the competition since their men are still coming to you. I guess in a way it's jealousy since the world would celebrate, say, an interracial love affair way before a homosexual one; particularly a male one.I think the Black family is going to be virtually obsolete and irreversibly so in fifty years. Most Black men are born(?) becoming(?) homo/bisexual or are only dating White women, and knowing this, Black women are marrying White men (many times out of desperation or just plain weariness). Soon, the black race will no longer be predominately Brown, but yellow.

From sfarmer@howard.edu

Here is my response to the questions about the origin of homosexuality. I pose the question you posed originally along with my response.

1. Why are you gay?

My answer: I am a homosexual because that is what GOD made me to be. As I read and study God's Word, the Lord has revealed to me that it was God who created us and not we ourselves (Psalms 100:3). God is responsible for all that exists in the world, and this includes anything one
perceives as good and as evil. The Lord tells us that He is the creator of good and evil (Isaiah 45:7). This is not to say that homosexuality is an act of evil. I believe that sexuality is not something to be moralized; instead what  a person DOES and THINKS based on one's sexuality is what one should consider as right and wrong.

2. Is the devil really the reason why homosexuality is in the world today?

My answer: No. God is the reason ALL sexuality (homo, bi, hetero, and trans) is in the world. God created sexuality and God created sex. As a final note of encouragement, I urge you to remember Romans 8:28. It says, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
to them who are called according to his purpose." Because I love God, all things (including my homosexuality) are working together for my good.

From anonymous

Hello, Mike. I am a heterosexual female. My best friend (homosexual male) and I are reading these comments together. Very interesting topic. I am a Christian and I view things this way. No one has the right to judge anyone else. No one is without sin. Not only that, no one can actually explain why a person is gay. Definitely not a person that is not gay themselves. I love my friend with all my heart and I disagree with anyone that says his soul is doomed to hell. I go out. I have a boyfriend. I am attracted to him because of what and who he is. He is pleasing to me and he is what I want. Some of these people that are so quick to judge others need to read their Bible. No sin is greater than the other. From knowing my best friend, I don't consider being gay so much of that. He is a loving person, hard worker, will lend a helping hand to anyone. He is the type of person anyone would love to have as a friend. We pray together and we stick by each other. That is what the Lord wants us to do is love one another and try to get along. This world is not going to be the way I want it or anyone else for that matter. We live in a society full of diversity. People need to learn how to mind their own business and do what is right for them. Stop worrying about people that are not worrying about you. How can a person try to dictate what someone else is or should be, when they don't know why they are so concerned? That makes no sense to me. If you don't like something, you don't go around or put yourself in a situation to have to deal with it. In all, if you are happy with yourself and you feel that you are doing the right thing for the man upstairs, then just pray about things and leave it at that. The answer lies with God and no one else. The majority of these people that make all of these judgements and have all of this hate in their hearts are going to end up in HELL, themselves. Thanks for listening.

From sublevel@hotmail.com

Greetings my Brothers & Sisters, especially to you, Mike. I have watched your site grow over the past 1 ½ years and I want you to know that we truly appreciate it! I also agree - for the most part - with your assessment of the straight/gay phenomenon.

However, I'd like to add a few more considerations. Let's look at the words homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual. As you mentioned, "gay" and "straight" cover two very small instances in the complete spectrum while "bisexual" can be used to refer to an infinite number of sexuality variations. The words "gay" and "straight" have become synonyms for homosexual and heterosexual, respectively.

Now let's look at the word "gay". This is a word that was convenient for society to use so that they could label anyone who's sexuality deviated from the "norm". But when the media refers to the "gay community" they are referring to white, anglo, male homosexuals (for the most part). Not white females, not Jewish men, not Asian lesbians, not Latino teenagers and not Black Men. The rest of us seem compelled to feed into a mindset that we don't necessarily even relate to. We all have different wants, needs and concerns. The fact is, the only thing that we all have in common is attraction to the same sex.

I wouldn't identify myself with a group of people based on the fact that they all love liver & onions, nor would I based on their dark skin pigment . Maybe because they're all dj's J But before I would arbitrarily identify myself with white anglo homosexual men, I would identify myself with Black lesbians! But that's me.

I believe that we are all SEXUAL. We like what feels good. SEX FEELS GOOD! Much as masturbation does -- which I consider sex.

The other day I was riding the subway. Directly across from me was a very attractive brother, about 28 years old, dreads, beautiful negroid features, nice lickable lips, strong clean hands. He was wearing a plain leather jacket, a sweater, corduroys and some bucks. Two seats to the left of me was a young woman maybe 25 years old, nicely dressed. She too was eyeing the young man. All of a sudden, the man reached into his bag and pulled out something wrapped in foil. It was a hot dog which he proceeded to eat. At that moment tears started streaming down my face as reality came along and spat on me once again. The fact is that I would probably NEVER have the meaningful, fulfilling, long-lasting, spiritual, loving, nurturing relationship with the type of black man that I've always yearned for. And all because of the vicious, heinous stigma that religion and society have placed on homosexuality. It's almost enough to make me embrace the hate that they operate with.

No, I certainly did NOT cover my face or fight back the tears. I just sat there with my eyes closed and took deep breaths. Of course, if anyone had questioned me I would have told them that my grandmother had just died L.

I went into the "straightening of Black Men" section and was quite pleased to see so many Black men of different backgrounds and perspectives bringing their views to the table. Now I'm sure that we all realize that there are also "gay" "straight" men out there. They may hang out with gay people and go to gay clubs - usually because they are more fun J But they are heterosexual.

I too have had that "special" relationship with that neighborhood boy growing up. We started at nine and we are both thirty-eight now. He's been a gang-banger, a drug dealer, a counterfeiter and has been in prison twice. Now he's a Muslim (yeah), lives with his girlfriend and baby and makes sure that he gets with me whenever I'm in town or he can get away. I know that I'm only fooling myself by thinking that one day - ONE DAY he's gonna realize that he loves me and that I'm the one that he should be with! (yeah)

I frequently have conversations with a man and a woman - both heterosexual. But our conversations take place in a primarily homosexual, male atmosphere. What's interesting is the comparisons between the different pairings. I and the hetero female have something in commom: we both like "straight" men. The hetero woman and the hetero man have something in common: they are both under the umbrella of "moral correctness" - no matter what else they may do in life (a homo is worse than a crackhead ya' know) Then there's the similarities between the hetero man and myself: we are both men. We have similar sexual drives. . . .more later

From twinnysevin@hotmail.com

first. i appreciate the brothers responsible for this site for giving a voice to the "silent" black gay community. now, as a minister and a scholar of the world, i would like to share just a little insight concerning this "devil". the idea of "satan" or "the devil" which is supposed to be the embodiment of all evil or whatever, came about after the end of the captivity of the hebrews in babylon. this was a period of interaction with other views and religions and the idea of a "devil" was just one of the new concepts introduced to what was traditional judaism (the jewish religion from which christianity is derived). in a nutshell, this is one more area where the ideas of certain people have been imposed on society to subjugate those of us who don't fit a certain "norm". God is a god of purpose, as i've stated here before and no "devil" is responsible for homosexuality. why would the true and living God, who is so benevolent and kind, providing for our EVERY need create something within us and then hate and punish us for it. i would implore you as the apostle paul did: "study to shew thyself approved unto GOD [not society], a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth [more than just the bible/koran]." i love you all. hold your heads up.

From PD2SXY@aol.com

I just finished reading the article and comments about "why are we gay?", and I just had to respond! I am one of those Same Gender Loving persons who knew from a very young age that I was attracted to males. I still remember watching movies on t.v. if there was a man who was supposed to be naked, but was only shown from the waist up, I would get all up on the t.v. trying to look down and see "it" lol. Now this was like 1st and 2nd grade ok? Like most of us who discover our "homosexuality" at an early age somehow I instinctively knew that others would not be accepting of my truth. So I kept it to myself for years. Publicly I was a little "heterosexual" boy. Privately, I had a secret love affair going on with a childhood friend that lasted up until my sophomore year of high school. Actually it would be more accurate to define it as a secret sexual affair, as I did not discover I could actually love another man until my senior year.

During this time, there were some who picked up on my otherness and I endured the occasional name calling and the heartache of wanting to be accepted and "normal". For all those gay reformers, pay close attention to this part. During my mid-teen years when I realized that it wasn't "just a phase" I would cry myself to sleep everynight, you hear me!? E-v-e-r-y-night! Pleading and praying to God to change me, and every morning I would go to school and see some of the fine brothers there and still feel the same way! I even put off my baptism for months, because I felt that I had to be this "perfect 'heterosexual' person" before I could do it. I can't remember who it was, but eventually it got through to me that all I had to do was believe in and trust the Lord. If there was anything that He found displeasing in his sight he would remove it. I got baptised (finally) and I felt peace,..and still "gay".

I kept hearing people talk about gay men saying "He just ain't had no good pussy! That's all he needs!" I bought into it and right on into my sophomore year of college I still thought, "Well maybe if I have sex with a woman, that will make me straight". This even after having my first lover my senior year of high school, and a couple of boyfriends after that ended. I met a beautiful young lady, and we became involved. She and all of our friends knew that I was "gay" but the common thought was;"Maybe you can make him straight." Well,guess what? That relationship did not last the year, and it wasn't because I couldn't perform sexually, I got the job done, almost too well as we had a pregnancy scare(false alarm). It wasn't that I didn't enjoy the sex, it was good and in her words,I "made some of (her) fantasies come true." I had promised her that if I ever felt like I still needed to be with a man I would tell her, that time came, and we went our seperate ways; still friends but that emotional,psychological and yes spiritual connection I felt with another man JUST WASN'T THERE.

It was only after all that at 19 years old I finally accepted who and what I was. Who and what God created me to be. I know some people will have a problem with that statement, and that's ok, because noone else gets to determine my truth and my relationship with the Creator. Finally I was at peace and I respected myself and commanded that respect from others. You did not have to agree with me, or like me, but I'd be damned if you were gonna disrespect me! Now since we've talked about the Creator, the source of energy we call God, let me put some truths out in the universe. This is not just grandma-told-me-what-the-preacher-man-told-her-what-the-slave-owners-and-missonaires-told-them kind of truth. I'm talking about historically and biblically based truth.

First and foremost THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE DEVIL. That is a made up entity that didn't even start off as one specific being. Originally a satan, was an angel of the Lord that was sent to keep human beings from straying off the path that God had chosen for them to go. Eventually through time and fables this became one entity supposedly in opposition to God. This idea was considered blasphemous at the time. How dare you suggest that there is somewhere, somehow a power in opposition to God. Doesn't it say in His word: I am all that there is, the Darkness and the Light, the good and the evil? I could go on, but instead I'll recommend two books for you to read one: A history of God by Karen Armstrong, two: The origin of Satan by Elaine Pagels.

I know this is getting long but bear with me a little while longer. Spirit must have led me here, because this topic has been on my mind for months! Addressing the supposed condemnation of "homosexuality". This cannot be, first of all becasue the words homosexual and heterosexual were not even invented until abound the late nineteenth century. Even then the inventors of the words were trying to help people who were "that way" by saying they couldn't help themselves because it was some sort of mental defect. Thanks a lot guys! But I digress... most of us base that belief on three sources: Leviticus, the story of Sodom and Gommorhea, and the writings of Paul. A book of writings that mysteriously appear long after the original books of the Hebrew bible were written. Written by priests who were in fear of their way of life being erased due to the people's attraction to other cultures and religious practices. A deliberately misinterpreted story about two cities that God HAD ALREADY decided to destroy BEFORE the supposed attempted rape of two of his alleged angels. The moral of that story is inhospitality, period. I mean come on, throw two virgin girls at a crowd of horny homosexuals? What are they gonna do? Their hair? I could go on, but I've made my point. Lastly the writings of a man who after murdering God only knows how many christians, remarkable claims to have seen the risen Christ, and goes out preaching the Gospel. Mind you by his own admission, he NEVER even bothers to go and seek out any of the twelve disciples, who were still alive to find out anything about who Jesus really was and what he actually said. Now if I told you I saw Bob Villa at the Home Depot, and suddenly with no training I felt I could build you your dream home, would you let me? Then why let this man guide your spiritual path? After all they don't call it The gospel According to..for no reason. Besides, we don't call ourselves Paulians, but Christians. More books to read: Jesus the Evidence by Ian Wilson, The Harlot by!
the side of the road by Jonathan Kirsch, and the book of Paul.

In closing, brothers and sisters if you are Christian can I point out a thing or two? The man whose teachings most of us follow never says anything about Same Gender attraction. Are we to believe that a man with such high God consciousness just simply forgot to mention it? People try to say that God hates the sin not the sinner. Well I've looked and looked and I just can't find that anywhere in the bible! Jesus said that God is love. Love and hate cannot reside in the same place. Look around you, does anything in life have just one way of expressing itself? Is there just one type of dog? or ant? How about bird? Plant? No. Yet all these things are expressions of the creative force called God. None of them develop or behave in the exact same pattern. But for some reason when it comes to human behavior we try to live by standards set by people who didn't and don't live by those rules themselves. Jesus is recorded as saying that he came to make a new covenant between humans and God. What that means is that the Old Mosaic law that people had been living under up until that time was now and forever null and void. Funny how we still take communion every first Sunday, but forget why we do it" In rememberance of me".

Peace & Blessings
P.

From forunda@aol

I was pleased to see how well you answered questions on sexual orientation. Today was my first time accessing this page. So, I printed all of the questions and comments, and plan to read them thoroughly and make some comments later. The religious issue is interesting to me for some personal reasons...but more for my interactions with others. I happen to be a professional who interacts with a lot of young persons who are developing in every way. Actually, they are college students. And many times I have to address the sex issue without sounding as if I am trying to impose my beliefs on others. My work is not in vain, however, because I have addressed, head-on, some students coming to grips with their own homosexuality. And can you believe this is at an HBCU? Of course you can believe it! ...Touchy subject for shaky ground.

Thanks for the tasteful discourse. Continue the good work.

From bonethugs4u@aol.com

Sup folks---First of all we must reallize that it is not fisible for everyone to be out of the closet or just letting others know about themselves. I am a 24 year old blackmale from Cleveland and I have a girlfriend(sex) and 18 month old son. I concider myself straight and don't go to gay clubs but once in a while I just want to go and see what it is like just to see other people like me. There are main reasons a person my not concider him or herself gay; family, friends, upbringing, religion, neiborhood, and just the hard core of life. Lets face it, being out (openly gay) is dangerous in some parts of society. I have no problem of my sex life with both girls and male---mostly straight fellas I kick it with, but it is not idea for me and I can guess for many of the readers who are reading this, to come out of the closet. There is much diversity in the gay life from hard core to cross dressers, and some of us just can't afford to be caught up in that lifestyle. It is fustraighting sometimes but in the long run, it is better safe than sorry.
PS--I have no problem accepting who I am and some of my niggas( ones who F around on the downlow) and I sit and chill with my straight friends ( who may have a clue but....) and we will play cards, watch movies, drink, smoke, whatever, but we keep it on a straight level. Take this New Years for instince, at my crib, it was about 8 guys who mess around more than once and about 7 guys who did not ( at least I don't know yet :`) but it was tight. No girls--and no questions. IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND SET. Good site by the way, Peace out. Blaze one!

Truthfully this feeback could be applicable to several on going discussions at Da Site but I found that some of its themes support the aforementioned proposal of a sexual spectrum. Please forgive me if I sound clinical but here is a very clear representation of those individuals that represent what I feel represent the core segment of human sexuality. In many ways these males would certainly be in the eyes of most heterosexual but as the speaker clearly points out only because of society! These young men under different circumstances could very well be living as homosexuals but the world around them precludes this! And because they aren't   composed of individuals from the extreme end they are able for the most part to father children and live  a semblance of the heterosexual lifestyle.

-Mike

From  just4you19@hotmail.com

HELLO,

I think it is the devils doing. It is all sin no matter how you look at it. For those justifying that it is something you are born with. H! no. The Lord brought you in the world with the capability of making decisions. You decide wether are not you are so called in love with same sex. Genectically they say you can have a gene of some kind to sway you that way. A bunch of bull!!! It still comes down to you deciding. All in the mind. I have male friends who are so called gay. They know it's a choice and that it is against the word of God. They just say it's their life and when they are ready to change and live the Lord, they will do so. I don't dislike anyone who chooses to ride that route, I just hate their ways. I pray for them daily tha they will see the light. They no I don't I like it. Like I said, I don't hate anyone, I just don't like some of the ways. What really makes me mad is when the doctors or scientist get out here and try to find an excuse for why they are the way they are. Also when the person themselves say " I was born like that" NO NO NO No nO nO No nO No no! Well, It was cool responding and hope you get something out of it. Love ya all and I'm praying for ya. (Just think about folks! Here we are about to go into the new millenium and views like this still persist!)


Peace,

Crazy Sexy Legs

From Shawn

The use of the normal distribution curve to illustrate the point of how we naturally fall into the the sprectrum of homo and hetero is misguided and false. Why? Because there is definitely a split between the homosexual and heterosexual communities, especially within the black community. The normal curve can only serve to illustrate the theory of how we have both heterosexual and homosexual tendencies, desires, orientiation, and behavior. I would tend to agree with it only on an individual basis. I would have to forget that society, religion, and culture have no influence whatsoever...But we all know that is not true..

Based on that, the curve is really Bi-modal..what does that mean? There should be two distinct humps with a valley in the middle to represent the bi-sexual population...I think that is a better representation of the outward orientation, behavior, and tendencies shown today.

Now, as to the question of Why? For me to speculate, ponder, wish for the answer as to why I am the way I am, is really fruitless....I have heard many people say "because" and leave it at that. They seem to be the ones who have come to terms with their orientation, desires, behaviors, regardless of how society views them. Hats off to you for your courage....

Then there are those who can write a 5000 page thesis for why they are the way they are....Hats of to you too!!!

Then there are those who say, it's the Devil's work...Here is my answer to that...

First, The Bible does not condone homosexual behavior. Period. It makes specific references to covenant Male and Female relationships. Therefore, anything not of God, is definitely against his will. There is no room to ride the fence on this issue....I say this because I read the Bible, I know and clearly understand God's will. As everyone else, Christian or not!!!

I thank God that He sees past my faults. Bi, Gay, fornication, etc...is all in the realm of SIN...So, who out there is without SIN that you can judge me...

That is not your right, or your privilege.

ABOVE ALL THINGS, I HAVE MY SALVATION...Period. That is what is really important.


So here is my point!!!!! There is no one answer that will satisfy the entire population. This is a very personal issue, and therefore, it warrants allot of soul searching, introspection, and for some individuals, therapy. There are allot of opinions, and hopefully some of them will help others deal with their orientation, behavior, actions, and the consequences from society.
Is it a Copout..Maybe...

But if you say that....YOU better have one hell of an answer to the Question. Why?


Thanks

From Blkmright1@aol.com

as usual the discussion on this site celebrate the power of the mind and the diversity of mankind. i didnt think i had anything to contribute to this discussion (well that was until i read the prayers of my brotha under the email address 'just4you19@hotmail.com) i am not sure what magic lead this brotha to this predominantly gay site, but he(an obivious straight man?) was here alright, armed with his bible and his prayers for all of us sinning homosexuals out there...AH AHA AHA AH AH!!!eithere the brotha has roaming fingers or lodge in his subconsiousness or consciousness(but just afraid to accept to it) lurks the longing for a dick up his ass or in his mouth. but enough said about him, however i must thank him, for now i have something to add to this. i am not sure why i was born this beautiful shade of black, but hell i accept it and i love it. i am not sure why i have a good heart, a respect for all things and a love for my brothers, but i do and i love it. and i am not sure why my inner body crave for the touch of a strong black man, or why my dick will only rise at the thought of another man and lie dead even if naiomi campbell was stark naked in my bed, but it does, and i cant explain all of this and frankly i no longer want to. the sexual yearnings of my body is as natural as my need to ever so often perform bowel action. so when my learned colleague (as referred to above) preach his sermon of disgust and with an added twist offer me prayers i say to him, make sure we do not lie in the same place on the day of judgement. as the webmaster sp elloquently puts it in his openening paragraphs to this debate, no theory or theories put forward by any individual/s will ever adequately cover the spacial diversity of gay people the world over. being gay is an individual thing. only you alone truly knows how you feel deep within, and only you alone can understand. as to why some of us are born perfectly healthy and others, well! you know, are other wise physically challenged, is a question only GOD(!
if you believe he exist ) can answer. we spend too much time as gay men torching ourselves for something we have absolutely no control over. life was loan to us as something we should enjoy, it is much to short to be spend with constant worrying, hiding and frustration. now i am not saying that the way i live my life is suitable for YOU. if your soceity teach you to hide and sleep with a man but later that same night proudly hold the hand of your son/daughter while your female friend smile triumphantly on your arms then go ahead. but that is no tool to disrespect the brotha who chooses to respect the sisters and deal with them on an upfront level, loving them and leaving their sexual organs to be utilise by a man who is only truly turned on by a woman. being gay is not a privelge we enjoy its a right we defend. it is who we are, who we were born to be. its who we will die as. being gay is just about who we chose to sleep with, we will remain your doctors, your lawyers, your teachers. your officers, your handy man, your taxmen, your presidents, ... we are gay because we cannot be staright. for anyone you proclaim that they can stop being gay then tell them to try. being gay is not about having gay sex, it incorporate every facet of our being. by stop sleeping with a brotha for however long is not a celebration of the death of your gayness, its only a postponement of things to come. STOP this madness right now and lets celebrate life

From  JOECOOL_100@HOTMAIL

First of all God does not make mistakes. I am a Gay male because he has a purpose for my life just the way that I am. We as People, especially those in the church, have to get away from blaming everything on the devil and realize that sometimes the Lord places things in our lives because he knows that we can handle them. He is not a God of confussion so then why would he create confussion within someone that he calls his child.
Could it possible be that the Lord is just trying to get to my purpose through my sexuality? Do I really have to be a sinner, or am I actually a blessing in God's Eyes. Something to just think about. I am a Gay Male... this is not a choose for me it's just the way that I am; and I have gotten beyond this thing about letting people tell me that God doesn't love me or he can't hear what I have to say because I am Gay. I Love God with all my heart, soul, and mind and I Know that he talks to me and I have communion with his spirit just like he talks to other people who call themselves Christ like. I can not understand how you can name the name of Christ and say you hate me, or don't like me because of my sexuality. Something you don't even understand.
God made me because he loves me; and I am Gay because that is how he made me. I was born out of love in his spirit and when he looked at me with that love in his eyes this is what he designed for my life. Yes I am a Gay African-American Male, yet I am still God's Child and I know the I am loved. I don't have to explain that to anyone other than my father. And if I am wrong then I guess I will never know until I meet my Lord face to face. I have to live this life that God has given me and I can not allow anyone to live it for me. I am a free moral agent and I have to trust God and know that I am not a mistake. That is why I am gay.

From  jay_dogg@hotmail.com

Good Afternoon Michael, My name is Jay and I'm a 21 yo GBM living in the Miami area, and I was surfing through the web, as I often do daily, and came across a question you posted in the Black Stories Section of Da Site.

(By the way I enjoy myself everytime I visit. You are such an inspiration to SGL-Brothas&Sistas everywhere... Please keep up the good work that you are doing for the African-American Brothas and Sistas(and others)who may have been confused upon entering the site but came to a realization that there is a refuge that they may go to escape the pressures of society. My hat goes off to you.)

Any way I meant to say all of that, but not so early. I must admit one thing though, when i read the question "Why are we Gay" or vice versa, I contemplated the thought in my mind for a long time then I knew what I was going to type. Basically my theory is such... Every person born into this world is Bisexual. That knocks out the Genetics and the Choice theories. What I mean by this is that when we are born, we have no knowledge of sexual preference or gender. all we know is that we are made different from the other babies and we are okay with it(I'll show you mine, etc.).... As we grow older we begin to experience changes and sense emotions and feelings that we never knew existed. we start to notice the other sex or for some the same sex maybe both. What I'm trying to say may not sound good on paper, but if i can explain myself in person, you'll get a better understanding of where I'm coming from. Some people feel that through their learnings being Gay is wrong. That "The Devil made me this way", but I have found in my studying that God sometimes places his people in situations as a learning experience, so that we that are in him may bear witness as testimonies of His Goodness and unmerited Favor. That we may minister to those who may be going through and want to get out of the lifestyle ,but don't know how. So being Gay isn't necessarily something the "devil" conjoured up one night.... It has been going since the Garden of Eden Incident. I hope I have not bored you with my theories... You can even Paraphrase if you'd like if you feel the readers will get confused. I thank you for listening and keep up the good work... I Love you my brotha!!!!

May God Bless you Eternally,

Jay

Dear reader thanks for the feedback on a more challenging topic. I was a little afraid that it would intimidate some. Your response is proof to the contrary and your insights add a different twist to this very controversial issue! Thanks again

-Mike

From iknowilukgood@aol

IMMA TRY TO MAKE THIS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE, SO LET ME GET STARTED.....I BEEN READING OTHERS OPINIONS ON THE MATTER OF HOMOSEXUALITY (WHETHER OR NOT ITS DEVIL RELATED...OR WHATEVER)..WELL I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, I KNOW THAT IM SAVED AND IM A CHRISTIAN, AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED A SEXUAL PERVERSION (AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO ARGUE THAT WITH ME OR WANTS TO PROVE ME WRONG, I GOT SCRIPTURES TO PROVE IT) BUT ANYWAY, I HAVE AN ATTRACTION TO MEN, AND ITS A STRONG ATTRACTION...AND I EVEN FIND MYSELF DAY-DREAMING ABOUT BEING WITH ANOTHER MAN, BUT I KNOW ITS WRONG...NOW IM NOT SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE I SAID I WAS A CHRISTIAN DOESNT MEAN THAT IM NOT, JUST BECAUSE I HAVE SEXUAL FEELINGS TOWARDS MEN, BUT I AM SAYING THAT I KNOW ITS NOT OF GOD, AND ITS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO ASK HIM (AND I AM ASKING HIM) TO HELP ME TO OVERCOME IT...I DONT LOOK AT MYSELF AS HOLIER THAN THOU, BUT I DO KNOW WHEN IM NOT DOING ALL THAT I SHOULD DO, AND BECAUSE I KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW I FEEL, AND ALSO THAT ITS AN ABOMINATION, IM WILLING TO COME TO REALITY WITH THAT AND ASK GOD TO REMOVE ANYTHING THAT SHOULDNT BE THERE...I WASNT BORN WITH THESE FEELINGS (AND I WONT GO INTO THAT BECAUSE IF I DO, IT WILL TAKE TOO LONG) BUT ANYWAY, IM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR MY ACTIONS OR MY FEELINGS THAT I KNOW ARE NOT RIGHT IN THE SIGHT OF GOD...SO WHEN I HEAR AND READ ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING THAT GOD MADE THEM GAY O! R GOD UNDERSTANDS... "THATS A LIE" GOD NEVER INTENDED ON TWO MEN BEING TOGETHER, IF HE DID HE WOULDNT HAVE GIVEN ADAM A WIFE, BUT ANYWAY...ITS TIME THAT WE STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON GOD, BECAUSE THE REALITY OF IT IS...THE ONLY REASON WHY WE BLAME GOD AND SAY THAT GOD MADE US THIS WAY OR GOD GAVE US THESE FEELINGS, IS BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW HOW TO CHANGE HOW WE FEEL, SO WE JUST GO ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM AND WE FIGHT TO EXCEPT IT, AND EVENTUALLY WE LEARN TO EXCEPT IT, AND THEN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE THINK " WELL GODS NOT CHANGING ME SO I GUESS THIS IS HOW HE WANTS ME"...IM SORRY BUT THE DEVIL IS LYING TO YOU, AND YOUR FALLING FOR IT, IF THATS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE WAY YOU ARE YOUR LYING ON GOD, AND ILL LEAVE ON THIS NOTE BECAUSE I KNOW ILL PROBABLY GET CUSSED OUT FOR WRITING THIS, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DONT LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH, THEY LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD....BUT ANYWAY, IM IN THE SAME BOAT AS SOME OF YOU, AND I KNOW WHAT YOUR GOING THROUGH AND ILL ADMIT AT TIMES IT IS CONFUSING! , AND FRUSTRATING, AND YES I AM SAVED BUT WE ALL HAVE A CROSS TO BARE AND APPARENTLY THIS IS ONE OF MINE, BUT INSPITE OF...BECAUSE I KNOW THE TRUTH AND BECAUSE I CAN EXCEPT THE TRUTH, IM BELIEVING GOD TO CHANGE MY LIFE EVEN MORE...(IM NOT SAYING IM NOT SAVED, I KNOW THAT IM SAVED) AND NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME, BUT I KNOW FOR MYSELF....BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IM BELIEVING GOD TO SEE ME THROUGH AND CORRECT MY FEELINGS AND MY EMOTIONS, BECAUSE IF CANT EXCEPT THE TRUTH WHEN I HEAR IT...ILL GO FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MIGHT HEAR OR READ, THAT WILL MAKE ME FEEL BETTER, AND DELIVERANCE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT FEELS GOOD ALL THE TIME, AND THATS WHAT I KNOW I NEED, JUST LIKE I KNOW THATS WHAT SOME YALL NEED, (THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK YOU WHERE BORN THIS WAY) THE DEVIL IS A LIAR, ITS TIME THAT WE COME TO GRIPS WITH OURSELVES,AND KNOW THAT GOD ISNT A STUPID GOD, OR A PERVERTED GOD...AND ITS TIME TO STOP RUNNING IN FEAR BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON WITH OURSELVES, (BECAUSE NOW! YOU KNOW)....NOW I WAS ALREADY PREPARED TO GET BASHED BY SOME OF YOU WHO THINK THAT IM A PREACHER OR SOMEONE WHO IS JUST TALKING OUT OF MY OWN OPINION, BUT IM NOT, WHAT IM TELLING YOU IS THE PURE UNADULTERATED TRUTH, NOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU CHOOSE TO EXCEPT IT IS TOTALLY UP TO YOU, BUT AT LEAST NOW YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT, I APOLOGIZE IF I OFFENDED ANYONE, IF I DID IM SORRY, THAT WASNT MY PURPOSE OF TYPING ALL OF THIS, MY PURPOSE WAS TO GET US TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL DEAL ABOUT WHATS GOING ON WITH US... I WASNT TRYING TO TICKLE YOUR FANCY , BUT I THINK ITS TIME THAT THE TRUTH BE TOLD AND WE STOP CONDONING THINGS THAT WE DONT THINK WE CAN CHANGE...BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS.....PRAYER CAN CHANGE (ANY)SITUATION.

GOD BLESS